OBEY--OR AWAY!--The Gen Story, Part 13
DO 1467
2/76
--A Talk after Gen had Returned to the U.S. & the Creations Team to Tenerife.
1. I hope Gen never goes near one of our Homes, she's a witch! She will cause nothing but trouble, so I certainly wouldn't want somebody to go & officially introduce her!
2. When it comes to some things & some people, Son, I can be hard, especially when I'm dealing with the Devil himself, & that's what she represents! She is as clever as the Devil, diabolically wise. Her letters can seem so sweet & so wonderful & so pitiful, but she's as clever & diabolically Satanic as the Devil himself!
3. She is a witch, she's possessed! It was Satan's own cleverness to get her this close to us & she caused us nothing but trouble! She caused us all to have to leave the Island, Son, to make it look like we were gone forever, that's how much trouble she caused us!--And we sure don't want that to happen again!
4. It's this serious, that if she causes us too much trouble because of her connection with Eman, we're going to have to send him back, we'll have to get rid of him, sad to say. He'd better know his job is at stake, & I made that very clear before he ever left Italy. I said he's going to have to make a choice between her or us.
5. It just makes me furious at the whole bunch of them that they didn't obey me & cut it off then! Then we could have seen the reaction THEN so as to know whether he was going to get to come or not, & I think that's exactly why they didn't do it, because he knew it was going to jeopardise his coming. If she blew up & exploded & landed in Italy, he wouldn't be able to come. And yes, he WOULDN'T have been able to come, & he didn't want that to happen. So he has strung it out & Jus LET him string it out!
6. Which means they're a problem & they just about all deserve to be sent back for it! That's the way I feel. And if that happens, I don't need to be near any Creations team.
7. I am just furious that we're all back here again & they're plunking that problem in our laps again! It just makes me furious to think that they're even ASKING us about it when I TOLD them what to do about it, & it just makes me feel like shipping the whole caboodle of them off again! That's what they deserve.
8. She is a demented maniac! Do you want her in one of our Homes? I want her in one of our Homes like I want the DEVIL in one of our Homes! I am just being shrewd, Son. I just told them what to say to get themselves off the hook. She's not a God-damned bit interested in going to one of our Homes in the States, that's not the point.
9. She doesn't want to serve the Lord, that's a lie!--She is in fulltime service of the Devil himself & she just wants to get someplace where she can cause some kind of trouble. Now we're right back at the same problem again because they didn't take care of it before they left Italy.
10. I wanted the explosion to happen then! If she came barrelling back on her round-trip ticket to come there & explode, I wanted it to happen THERE, while I'm down here, not while we're ALL here. This is just unbelievable after all I told Jus when he sent letters to me asking what to do, & I TOLD him exactly what to do! Eman doesn't know beans from beans! He got sucked in by her witchcraft to begin with, & I think he's still a sucker! I think every time he gets a letter from her it touches his soft spot & he feels sorry for her & he doesn't want to make the break.
11. Imagine, the whole team had to take a boat & leave the island, everybody had to go except Alf & Sara! I was deliberately trying to give everybody, especially Gen & Corny & a lot of other people, the impression that we had left the island for good, all of us.
12. Do you know how much it cost for us all to make this round trip?
13. I hope the next team we have down here will be more obedient than they have been & have a more obedient supervisor than Justus! Because when it comes to the showdown of what HE thinks is best & what I think is best & there's a difference of opinion about it, so far Justus Ashtree has always done what HE thought was best, regardless, & this is another sample of it. Whew! God help us!
14. What the hell can I do to Justus to punish him, to show him how awful his sins of disobedience are? Maybe I ought to send him & Eman both back. We always need a secretary, we need his wife here, dumb little girl, she apparently didn't know any better. (She does now! She was finally smart enough to LEAVE him! GBY, Sweetheart!--ILY!--And I KNOW you love me NOW! ILY!) It's totally Jus' fault because he's in charge of that Team & he's the one I wrote & he's the one I told what to do when he asked what to do about it!
15. I think his excuse was that they talked it over & decided it was better not to precipitate a crisis at that time, & I have an idea WHY they decided not to, they were afraid it might jeopardise their trip down here. Well, it's not only jeopardising THEM now, but it's jeopardising US too because they didn't obey! And what are we going to do to them to teach them a lesson? What do you think we ought to do?
16. Well, the three of them apparently talked it over & decided to disobey me, so Eman's just as much to blame as anybody, although I hold the leader of a team the most to blame. But when he managed to persuade his whole team not to do what I tell them to do, then they're ALL to blame & they ALL have to suffer the consequences.
17. That is why we all went back to Italy, in order to resolve the problem & settle it, break it off, & see whatever the explosions & repercussions would be from it, find out what was going to happen as a result before we ever came back here.
18. When I read Justus' letter asking us what to do about it--"we never did cut it off in Italy before we left, we all decided it was better to wait & not precipitate a crisis before we left"--just the OPPOSITE of what I told him, I just could hardly believe my eyes! Because that is what we went back to Italy to do, to get rid of Gen, whatever it took! To think that they would have let us come back here again & come here themselves in direct disobedience to what I told them to do, & all the trouble is back here again without having solved the problem!
19. Well frankly, as far as I'm concerned, Justus deserves to be fired! Any employee who causes his boss this much trouble really ought to be fired! I mean, a one-time loser was bad enough, but a two-time loser is just too much!
20. They've got to go back where they left God & try to find Him again, where they left His Will & my will & the place of obedience. I know I have had to do it on occasion time & time again in my life when I didn't want to do something God told me to do & I tried to run out on it like Jonah did to Nineveh, & I had nothing but trouble & trouble & trouble! Sometimes it took me years to get back to where I left God's Will, & almost every time I had to go back to the very place & the very situation where I left it!
21. Send them back until the situation is resolved & impress on them how much their mistake is going to cost us & how much trouble! They can be thankful if it doesn't cost them all their jobs, or we'd never trust them again when they disobeyed so MANY times. I made a crack on one of Justus' letters, I said, "While you're at it, maybe you could explain why you didn't give your Shepherds more cooperation when you were in Italy!" He wrote me back a letter that sounded like Malachi's last Chapter: "Wherein have we done this? I thought we were cooperating marvellously, getting along great!" He doesn't even see it or he refuses to see his faults.
22. I don't usually like to give real hard orders & get tough with people. Usually they're pretty far gone when I get that way & I lay it on the line & lay it out & say, "You do thus & so or else!" I usually give my orders in the form of suggestions & my wish should be their command! I shouldn't have to order them.
23. I told Eman as clear as I could in a note to Justus that he's going to have to choose between Gen & his job, & that was the same letter. I can remember writing it down the margin on Justus' letter asking me about what they should do, that they'd have to cut it off. Well, this was already a disobedience because I'd already told them that that's what they were to do before they even left here! I said, "You have to go back to Italy now & thresh this thing out & get rid of Gen & cut that thing off completely, period!" But they never did it.
24. So it's a problem & I feel sorry for all of us! We feel tempted to feel sorry for Gen sometimes, such an instrument of the Devil, but she's caused us so much time & trouble, I can't feel that sorry. I cannot jeopardise the Lord's Work for one weak soldier. If Eman's so feeble that he falls right in & feels obligated to her & that he needs to take care of her, then he'll just have to go, & the best thing to do would be to ship him off to the States too.
25. See, the person who really is the problem is Eman. If you straighten out your own heart & get your own heart right before the Lord & yield everything to God, forsake all, then the Lord will straighten out the other things. But as long as Eman is double-minded & wavering, then it's never going to get straightened out. (Prays:) Help us, Lord!
26. We know something is not right somewhere in the camp, & we believe that the unyielded thing is in Eman's heart regarding this woman & her children. This is where the unyieldedness is, Lord, it keeps coming back to it all the time. He has not given it up, he does not have the victory.
27. So as long as he is wavering, Lord, we cannot take a chance on having him here either, & certainly not her! If he's not willing to give her up, Lord, we certainly can't have him HERE. So they're all going to have to learn that lesson we thought they had learned, which they apparently didn't, & have to learn their bitter lesson over again & have to go back again.
28. And there's a Scripture I get for them! If you want to read it to them, it's 1Samuel 15, the whole Chapter about the background of the story. Saul went out & he won the battle, he defeated the enemy, he did all the things he was told to do except... Isn't that funny? I was just sitting here thinking, "What is WRONG with those people after all this? What is their attitude?" And this Scripture came as clear as anything! (Reads passage beginning with 1Samuel 15:12:)
29. "And when Samuel rose early to meet Saul in the morning"--Saul on his way back from the battle--"it was told Samuel, saying, Saul came to Carmel, & behold, he set him up a place and is gone about, and passed on, & gone down to Gilgal." Obviously he wasn't coming back to face Samuel, he was beating around the bush. I don't think he wanted to run into Samuel if he could help it! So Samuel had to go out looking for him.
30. "And Samuel came to Saul & Saul said unto him, Blessed be thou of the Lord: I have performed the commandment of the Lord." That's the Scripture the Lord gave me when I was sitting here. They have claimed to have performed the commandment of the Lord, but they have not. They DID NOT! What a LIAR! What a HYPOCRITE! And yet he did it so smoothly he surely must have lied to himself, so that he finally had himself convinced!--And that's the way people do, they lie until they believe their own lies.
31. "And Samuel said, what meaneth then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, & the lowing of the oxen which I hear? And Saul said, They have brought"--THEY, not him! This is Justus' typical excuse! "Well, EMAN won't do it!" I guess in THAT you folks are right, they're all guilty. "They have brought them from the Amalekites: for the people spared the best of the sheep & of the oxen, to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God, & the rest we have utterly destroyed."
32. "We only saved them for the Lord, though we didn't quite do what you said, but we thought this was better!" We did everything else & we served you faithfully & won the battle & defeated the enemies, & look how much we've accomplished! Look at all these Letters and all this art & all this typing & all this! Behold, we have performed the commandment of the Lord!"
33. There's no halfway with God! There's no 90% of the way with God! "What meaneth then the bleating of the sheep in mine ears & the lowing of the oxen which I hear? You are a LIAR!" Samuel was saying right to Saul's face, "You DIDN'T do what I told you to do, you didn't slay utterly!" That was his commandment, to slay them utterly.
34. They have not slain utterly! They didn't get rid of this woman. He didn't slay utterly that thing in his heart, it's still alive, he's still saving it. He's come, he's won the victory, he's done this, he's done that, but that thing's still alive, that evil is still alive!
35. "Then Samuel said unto Saul, Stay, & I will tell thee what the Lord has said to me this night. And Saul said, Say on. And Samuel said, When thou wast little in thine own sight, wast thou not made the head of the tribes of Israel, & the Lord anointed thee king over Israel? And the Lord sent thee on a journey, & said, Go & utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, & fight against them until they be consumed." That's what I told them to do when I sent them back to Italy: "Don't come back until this problem is utterly slain & gotten rid of totally!" "Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the Lord?
36. "And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I HAVE obeyed the voice of the Lord, Man & have gone the way which the Lord sent me, & have brought Agag the king of Amalek, & have utterly destroyed the Amalekites." Now he's trying to even throw the king in to bribe Samuel a little bit: "Listen, you didn't hear about this, but I even brought the king back with me!"
37. It shows you how stupid & how dumb people can be when they're disobeying God & how deceived they are! Well, as far as God was concerned, that was the WORST thing he could have done, because He told him to kill them ALL, & yet he brought the guy back with him & he's trying to sway Samuel now in his judgement by saying, "Well maybe that was a mistake, but hey, I've got the king with me, you didn't hear about that! I've got a really famous captive, this will bring glory to us! I captured the king!"
38. "But the PEOPLE took of the spoil, sheep & oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in Gilgal." Now see if this isn't what Justus will say: "Well, Eman just wouldn't do it, he just wouldn't slay utterly, but in our service to the Lord we just came anyway."
39. "And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings & sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord?" All these little burnt offerings & sacrifices they send up the hill every day mean nothing compared to obedience. Look what it's going to do to them now--nothing--because they can't do it as long as they haven't obeyed. It'll ruin their whole work & ministry! And here comes the classic, of course, which is so famous:
40. "Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, & to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, & stubbornness is as iniquity & idolatry." That was the first Scripture I ever got for Genesis, by the way, she was rebellious & stubborn, very rebellious & stubborn, almost always, but they didn't think that was too bad.
41. "Because thou hast rejected the Word of the Lord, He hath also rejected thee from being king." If they cannot obey, they can't have their job. We can't have people who don't obey. Justus just acts like a little king down there in his little domain, but he's going to lose his kingdom if he can't obey.
42. The Lord was merciful to Saul for some years afterwards until He could train somebody else to take his place. He had to put up with him for quite awhile, & we just about have! And if they don't straighten this thing out now, then we are going to have to get somebody else to take their place, period, & that's that.
43. Now Saul puts on this big act: "I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord, & thy Words: because I feared the people, & obeyed their voice." Let's see who he fears the most. "Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, & turn again with me, that I may worship the Lord."--In other words, before the people so they won't know about it. "Please come into the tabernacle with me & show that I am still in good favour with God. Cover for me, will you Samuel? Please cover up for me!" Well, I can't cover for them any more, they've got us this far where we can't cover for them, we just can't.--Isa.29:13; Pro.29:25.
44. "And Samuel said unto Saul, I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the Word of the Lord, & the Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel. And as Samuel turned about to go away, he laid hold upon the skirt of his mantle"--Saul did, grabbed ahold of Samuel's robe--"& rent it," it tore. "And Samuel said unto him, The Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, & hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou. And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for He is not a man, that He should repent." God's not going to change His mind.
45. You know, the Lord said last time that those folks just were not worthy, & I tried to forget about it. They disobeyed then & now they've proven it again, they disobeyed again. Then Saul said, "I have sinned, yet honour me now, I pray thee, before the elders of my people, & before Israel, & turn again with me"--cover up for me, he was saying--"that I may worship the Lord thy God." Finally Samuel turned again after Saul & Saul worshipped the Lord.
46. We need this team & we'll have to put up with them for awhile until we can find a replacement, & that's what we did, & that's why we've sent for them again, because they were supposed to have slain utterly, but they didn't. But to show you how forceful & violent & harsh God can be if He wants to be, when He thinks it's necessary--I think the Lord allowed this to happen lest there be any doubt left in their mind that God didn't mean what He said--
47. "Then said Samuel, bring ye hither to me Agag the king of the Amalekites. And Agag came unto him DELICATELY." Agag kind of felt what was in the air. "And Agag said, Surely the bitterness of death is past."--Now maybe we'll be friends, an idol-worshipper & king of a perverted people! "Let's try to forget the whole thing! Why don't we just forget it?"--Probably that's what Gen was hoping we would do, that maybe she could still wiggle her way back in & forget the whole thing.
48. "And Samuel said, as thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women! And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal." The Lord wanted to show him that He meant what He said! When He told him to slay them utterly, He meant UTTERLY, & not save anything or anybody. Utterly! And not claim that they had done it & find out that they HADN'T done it. So there it is.
49. (1983: Look how the Devil fought the founding of the FFing Revolution & Family of Love explosion in Tenerife before it ever got started!--He drove us off the Island once & nearly twice before it ever began! He was really furious because of what God was about to do! But once we got rid of the troublemakers, God began to really work & we exploded & God steamrollered all before Him! Hallelujah! TYJ!
50. (Just as the Lord used one tiny love-possessed girl to start it all--Maria!--So the Devil tried to use one tiny demon-possessed woman to try to stop it!--And other disobedient Family members! But because WE obeyed, God continued to use US to bulldoze it through in spite of all! TYJ! Jesus never fails!--IF you'll OBEY!--What are YOU doing?--HINDERING or HELPING the Work of the Lord? God help you either to OBEY--or get out of the WAY!--In Jesus' name, amen!)
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